スペイン政府の財政赤字削減政策のための医療費削減で、医療保険制度から排除される不法移民から保険料を65歳以下は年間710'00ユーロ徴収する案について、差別を産むとして反対多数
Rechazo en bloque al plan de cobrar por atender a los sin papeles
El PP anima a los inmigrantes a regresar a su país
País Vasco, Andalucía y Cataluña rechazan la medida
Los médicos alertan del riesgo sanitario
Rejection block the plan to charge for care for undocumented
The PP encourages immigrants to return home
Basque Country, Andalusia and Catalonia rejected the measure
Doctors warn of health risk
The government invites undocumented immigrants to regularize for assistance
Health requires 710 euros a year to be attended by undocumented
3,500 MILLION BLOG: 'It is not enough, Mrs Mato'
Emilio de Benito / Mary R. Sahuquillo Madrid 7 AGO 2012 - 22:13 CET
The PP encourages immigrants to return home
Basque Country, Andalusia and Catalonia rejected the measure
Doctors warn of health risk
The government invites undocumented immigrants to regularize for assistance
Health requires 710 euros a year to be attended by undocumented
3,500 MILLION BLOG: 'It is not enough, Mrs Mato'
Emilio de Benito / Mary R. Sahuquillo Madrid 7 AGO 2012 - 22:13 CET
If health care to illegal immigrants is a problem, they disappear. Or, in political language: "The illegal immigrants they have to do is enter legally, and that's a reflection that generally do." So said yesterday the deputy spokesman of the PP in Congress, Rafael Hernando, who has said that Spain has to stop being the "paradise" of illegal immigration and urged those in irregular situation to return home.
The issue of assistance to undocumented immigrants is the trigger for these statements. On 31 this month will lose their health insurance card, and can only go to the emergency room (unless they are minors or pregnant women). On Monday it emerged that the Ministry of Health had concocted an attempted solution: subscribing to a kind of public health policy with the payment of 59.20 euros per month for those under 65 and 155.4 for the rest. But the idea only supports PP.
"Many could not afford Spanish" said Sanitation spokesman of the PSOE in Congress, José Martínez Olmos, who doubts the legal basis of the measure. "It's not just a question of competence. I do not see is how you will sign an agreement an official with someone who is in an irregular situation. " Martinez Olmos To order this project is another attempt of Health to correct the mistakes of the Royal Decree Law of 20 April adjustments, although "underserved". "Diseases like diabetes, which require a long treatment, would not be sufficiently covered. The same happens with infectious when they are not treated well as a threat. The Government will have to rectify. Because you can not continue tinkering. "
more informationHealth requires 710 euros a year to be attended by undocumentedIllegal immigrants have health insurance card to the August 31Health invites to regularize undocumented for assistance
The spokesman for the United Left in the Congressional Health Commission, Gaspar Llamazares, has also intervened, and accused the government of trying to "criminalize" undocumented migrants to withdraw attention or to condition the payment of an agreement. "The price that put the insurance is all a definition of the concept of third class citizens having the PP towards immigrants and their conception that health is not a right but a source of business," he added.
In a professional environment, the reviews are unanimous. For Josep Basra, president of the Spanish Society of Family and Community Medicine (Semfyc), the proposal is not feasible. Furthermore, he argues, is profoundly unfair. "I can not explain either from the standpoint of political or ethical or health. These people have no money to meet that cost. We serve them every day know. We're talking about marginalized people, who have no resources and has no legal residence ... "he says.
Basra believes that the only motivation for the requirement posed health may be the intention of bringing out the black economy. "If not, can not be understood. But still, not the way, because we are talking about people who subsist on a daily basis, many organizations using "he says. "700 euros per year figure is unattainable," ditch. The company has opened a website to collect objectors to government decrees. Have already signed up nearly 900 professionals.
Other associations, such as infectious (SEIMC), nursing and pharmacy also are committed to care for immigrants and the rest of the population.
The Spanish PSOE says that many could not pay the fees required
Among the communities that governs the PP, Andalusia and the Basque Country have already shown their rejection. The Andalusia Minister of Health, María Jesús Montero, said that the Board has already made clear that it will continue to maintain the "free" of health, and that immigrants continue to be served, among other things, to avoid "public health problems , "says Manuel Planelles.
Catalonia wait to see the order, but meanwhile said following with his plans to not leave anyone unattended in primary and prepares the instruction to regulate access to hospital care and specialized.
And if this is true among professionals and politicians, immigrant associations or who care for them could not be more upset. "That amount is a fortune for an illegal immigrant who either are unemployed or surviving on small odd jobs," says Vladimir Paspuel, the association of Ecuadorian Rumiñahui, reports Natalia Junquera. "Many have lost the papers to be unemployed, but had previously quoted. This situation is grossly unfair to be asked that amount. "
Vladimir insists that it is "totally false" that the abuse of immigrant health. "There are dozens of studies that prove this. The famous health tourism, foreigners who come to Spain to undergo surgery is a phenomenon of EU citizens, "he explains.
IU believes it is a sign of contempt for foreigners
Bridget also Moreta, the United Peoples organization, believes that it is impossible for foreigners in an irregular situation to deal with that amount. "It's more nonsense. A more outrage for the poor, not only for someone who is unemployed but has little opportunity to work today, "he says.
Monica Garcia, head of Network Welcomes believes the target system will increase the health of this group socioeconomic inequalities in access to social services. "In addition, undocumented migrants contribute through their indirect taxes to support public health," he says. The same argument used by the Federation of Associations for the Defense of Public Health.
In any case, have to wait and see what all this is concrete. Health has not commented. In a note indicates that the model agreements may be signed by "third-country nationals." In principle, this would include immigrants. But the question arises when the same note specifies that "in terms of illegal immigrants," as if it were a separate group, "the Government reminded the need to regularize their situation." As if it were easy.
The issue of assistance to undocumented immigrants is the trigger for these statements. On 31 this month will lose their health insurance card, and can only go to the emergency room (unless they are minors or pregnant women). On Monday it emerged that the Ministry of Health had concocted an attempted solution: subscribing to a kind of public health policy with the payment of 59.20 euros per month for those under 65 and 155.4 for the rest. But the idea only supports PP.
"Many could not afford Spanish" said Sanitation spokesman of the PSOE in Congress, José Martínez Olmos, who doubts the legal basis of the measure. "It's not just a question of competence. I do not see is how you will sign an agreement an official with someone who is in an irregular situation. " Martinez Olmos To order this project is another attempt of Health to correct the mistakes of the Royal Decree Law of 20 April adjustments, although "underserved". "Diseases like diabetes, which require a long treatment, would not be sufficiently covered. The same happens with infectious when they are not treated well as a threat. The Government will have to rectify. Because you can not continue tinkering. "
more informationHealth requires 710 euros a year to be attended by undocumentedIllegal immigrants have health insurance card to the August 31Health invites to regularize undocumented for assistance
The spokesman for the United Left in the Congressional Health Commission, Gaspar Llamazares, has also intervened, and accused the government of trying to "criminalize" undocumented migrants to withdraw attention or to condition the payment of an agreement. "The price that put the insurance is all a definition of the concept of third class citizens having the PP towards immigrants and their conception that health is not a right but a source of business," he added.
In a professional environment, the reviews are unanimous. For Josep Basra, president of the Spanish Society of Family and Community Medicine (Semfyc), the proposal is not feasible. Furthermore, he argues, is profoundly unfair. "I can not explain either from the standpoint of political or ethical or health. These people have no money to meet that cost. We serve them every day know. We're talking about marginalized people, who have no resources and has no legal residence ... "he says.
Basra believes that the only motivation for the requirement posed health may be the intention of bringing out the black economy. "If not, can not be understood. But still, not the way, because we are talking about people who subsist on a daily basis, many organizations using "he says. "700 euros per year figure is unattainable," ditch. The company has opened a website to collect objectors to government decrees. Have already signed up nearly 900 professionals.
Other associations, such as infectious (SEIMC), nursing and pharmacy also are committed to care for immigrants and the rest of the population.
The Spanish PSOE says that many could not pay the fees required
Among the communities that governs the PP, Andalusia and the Basque Country have already shown their rejection. The Andalusia Minister of Health, María Jesús Montero, said that the Board has already made clear that it will continue to maintain the "free" of health, and that immigrants continue to be served, among other things, to avoid "public health problems , "says Manuel Planelles.
Catalonia wait to see the order, but meanwhile said following with his plans to not leave anyone unattended in primary and prepares the instruction to regulate access to hospital care and specialized.
And if this is true among professionals and politicians, immigrant associations or who care for them could not be more upset. "That amount is a fortune for an illegal immigrant who either are unemployed or surviving on small odd jobs," says Vladimir Paspuel, the association of Ecuadorian Rumiñahui, reports Natalia Junquera. "Many have lost the papers to be unemployed, but had previously quoted. This situation is grossly unfair to be asked that amount. "
Vladimir insists that it is "totally false" that the abuse of immigrant health. "There are dozens of studies that prove this. The famous health tourism, foreigners who come to Spain to undergo surgery is a phenomenon of EU citizens, "he explains.
IU believes it is a sign of contempt for foreigners
Bridget also Moreta, the United Peoples organization, believes that it is impossible for foreigners in an irregular situation to deal with that amount. "It's more nonsense. A more outrage for the poor, not only for someone who is unemployed but has little opportunity to work today, "he says.
Monica Garcia, head of Network Welcomes believes the target system will increase the health of this group socioeconomic inequalities in access to social services. "In addition, undocumented migrants contribute through their indirect taxes to support public health," he says. The same argument used by the Federation of Associations for the Defense of Public Health.
In any case, have to wait and see what all this is concrete. Health has not commented. In a note indicates that the model agreements may be signed by "third-country nationals." In principle, this would include immigrants. But the question arises when the same note specifies that "in terms of illegal immigrants," as if it were a separate group, "the Government reminded the need to regularize their situation." As if it were easy.
拒絶反応は、文書化されていないためのケアのために充電するための計画を阻止する PPは、家庭を返すために移民を奨励する バスク、アンダルシアとカタルーニャは、メジャーを拒否 医師が健康上のリスクを警告 政府が援助のために定例化するに不法移民を誘う健康は710ユーロの年が記載されていないが出席されている必要があります3,500百万BLOG："それは、夫人のマトでは十分ではありません"エミリオ·デ·ベニート/メアリー·R. 2012 AGO Sahuquilloマドリッド7 - 午後09時13分CET
不法移民への医療に問題がある場合、それらは消えてしまいます。または、政治的な言語で： "彼らがしなければならない不法移民合法的に入力すると、それは一般的に行い反射だされています。"ので、スペインは不法移民の "楽園"であることを停止しなければならないことを言って自宅を返すために不規則な状況でそれらを求めてきた議会のPP、ラファエルヘルナンドの副スポークスマンは昨日言いました。
不法移民への援助の問題は、これらのステートメントのトリガーです。 31日、今月は自分の健康保険証を失うことになる、唯一の緊急治療室（彼らは未成年者や妊婦である場合を除きます）に行くことができます。残りの65 155.4未満の方のために月額59.20ユーロの支払いと公衆衛生政策の種類を購読する：月曜日には、保健省は試行されたソリューションをでっち上げていたことが明らかになった。しかし、アイデアだけでPPがサポートされています。
"多くはスペイン語の余裕がなかった"議会のPSOEの衛生スポークスマンは、メジャーの法的根拠を疑うホセ·マルティネス·オルモス氏は語った。 "それは単に能力の問題ではありません。私はあなたが不規則な状況にある誰かと契約書を正式に署名する方法がわかりません。 "このプロジェクトを注文するにはマルティネスオルモスは "行き届いていない"が、4月20日の調整の勅法の間違いを修正するための健康のもう一つの試みである。 "長い治療を必要とする糖尿病などの病気は、十分にカバーされません。彼らは脅威としてよく扱われていない場合にも同じことが、感染で起こります。政府は是正する必要があります。あなたはいじり続けることはできませんので。 "
詳細については、健康は710ユーロの年が記載されていないが出席されている必要があります不法移民は、8月31日に健康保険カードを持っている健康サポートについては、マニュアルに記載されていない定例化に招待
国連のスポークスマンは、議会の保健委員会、ガスパルLlamazaresで左にも介入しており、注目を撤回または契約条件の支払いをするために文書化されていない移民を "犯罪"しようとして政府を非難した。 "保険を入れて価格は、健康は正しいが、ビジネスの源泉ではないことを移民とその構想に向けてPPを持つ三流市民の概念のすべての定義である"と彼は付け加えた。
プロの環境では、レビューは全会一致です。ジョセップ·バスラ、家族と地域医療（Semfyc）のスペイン語協会の会長については、提案は現実的ではありません。さらに、彼は主張し、深く不公平である。 "私は政治や倫理や健康の観点からどちらか説明することはできません。これらの人々はそのコストを満たすためにお金を持っていません。我々は知っている毎日それらを提供しています。我々は、リソースを持たず、法的に住居を持っていない取り残された人々、話している... "と彼は言う。
バスラでは、要件ポーズの健康のためだけの動機は黒の経済を引き出すの意図かもしれないと考えています。 "理解することができない場合はありません。我々が日常的に生活する人々について話しているので、しかし、それでもまだ、方法は、使用して、多くの組織では "と彼は言いません。溝 "今年図当たり700ユーロは、不可能です"。同社は、政府の政令に兵役を収集するウェブサイトを開設しました。すでに約900の専門家をサインアップしている。
そのような感染症（SEIMC）、看護や薬局などの他の団体もまた、移民、人口の残りの世話をすることにコミットしている。
スペインPSOEは、その多くは必要な費用を支払うことができませんでしたと言う
PP、アンダルシアとバスク地方を支配する社会の中ですでに彼らの拒絶反応を示している。健康のアンダルシア大臣、マリア·ヘスス·モンテロは、取締役会はすでにそれが健康の "自由"を維持し続けることを明確にしていると述べ、その移民は "公衆衛生の問題を回避するために、他のもののうち、提供され続けて"マヌエルPlanelles氏は述べています。
カタルーニャでは、順序を参照するのを待つが、その間、主に誰が放置しないように彼の計画では、次のと言って病院でのケアや専門へのアクセスを規制するための命令を準備します。
これは専門家や政治家、移民団体や誰がそれらをより動揺することができませんでしたのためのケアの間である場合、trueを返します。 "のいずれか失業者や小さな奇数ジョブで生き残っている不法滞在者のために幸運つまり量"ウラジミールPaspuel、エクアドルRumiñahui、レポートナタリアJunqueraの協会は述べています。 "多くの失業者になる論文を失ったが、以前に引用されていました。このような状況は、その金額を要求されるように著しく不公平である。 "
ウラジミールは、移民の健康の虐待が "完全に偽"であることを主張している。 "これを証明する研究の数十があります。有名なヘルスツーリズム、手術を受けるためにスペインに来る外国人はEU市民の現象である "と彼は説明しています。
IUは、それが外国人のための軽蔑のしるしであると考えています
ブリジットもMoreta、アメリカ先住民組織は、それがその量に対処するための不規則な状況で外国人のため不可能であると確信しています。 "それはより多くのナンセンスだ。貧しい人々のためのより多くの怒りだけでなく、失業者ですが、今日は仕事に少し機会を持っている誰かのために、 "と彼は言う。
モニカ·ガルシア、ネットワーク歓迎のヘッドは、ターゲットシステムは、社会サービスへのアクセスにこのグループ社会·経済格差の健康を向上させると確信しています。 "加えて、文書化されていない移住者は、公衆衛生をサポートするために彼らの間接税を通じて貢献する"と彼は言う。公衆衛生の防衛のための連合会で使用されるのと同じ引数。
いずれにせよ、待って、このすべてが具体的であるかを確認する必要があります。健康はコメントしていません。ノートでモデル契約によって署名される可能性があることを示し、 "第三国の国民。"原則的に、これは移民が含まれます。同じノートが "不法移民の面では、"あたかもそれが別のグループであることを指定した場合しかし、問題が発生し、 "政府は、その状況を定例化する必要性を思い出させた。"それは簡単であるかのように。
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